We cannot go into specifics as each report is different and this will just end up leading into a circular argument of GÇ£ifsGÇ¥ and GÇ£butsGÇ¥. We will say that impersonation cases are handled on a case by case basis by experienced GMs and there is no change in how such cases will be handled from now from how they were handled a year ago.

The key point about this thread is that CCP are going to draw from it for ideas, so if you're spraying awful ideas out of your arse at 300mph you'd better be careful because some of them might stick.

The boiling frog analogy is fine if you're not also saying from the other side of your mouth "god you know what let's just skip boiling the frog and serve it for dinner while its legs are still twitching from the taser we used to fry it alive"

what you're essentially advocating is skipping the ~slow process~ of changing the game and going right to stabbing it through the heart with a ****-encrusted dagger

Sorry that I didn't jump on the delusion express to cloud cuckoo land this morning but I'd rather this game didn't suck down an entire concrete mixer full of **** before getting better.

Firstly: Mynna was on the money with his post, a few tweaks and it is fair and balanced update to the ToS. The questions that must flow from this pants on head soaked in petrol and set on fire ******** clusterfornicate was how did a unique gameplay element destroying change to the ToS make it into the live game so easily? Did the GM's not realise the horror of this? Were the Devs asleep at the wheel? The CSM sidelined? Did a clueless junior lawyer get hired to write this up or was it a recent hire trying to make their mark on the game? I do not play eve for the terrible PVE or the PVP. Like a great many others I play for the drama, the stories, the legends and the lore. This change can to easily be used to crush a huge part of this cold, harsh world which many of us enjoy because it is cold, harsh, uncaring, vicious, cut throat, mean, cruel and soul crushingly heartless. Recently I told friends elsewhere on a forum the story of eve. Many enjoyed the story, the drama, a few gave the game a try. Their interest was sparked by Eve and the unique, hard and cold sandbox. Kill this iteration of the sandbox at your peril.

When random GMs respond to random cases like this it could prove problematic.

I'm not going to be as harsh, but it does lean a bit too much towards reinventing the wheel.

If scamming is a serious problem for noob retention, I do like the idea of putting it into the tutorial. Get them to RP a few common scams, then let Aurora scam them! Surely they can't stay mad at Aurora!?

And in-game mechanics could be used for new player names... can't be so hard to implement a similarity check, no?

• Then just add an Aura tutorial to introduce new players to scams
• change the tos to better protect CCP employees: "You may not impersonate or present yourself to be a representative of CCP or an EVE Online volunteer." [skip the rest]
• and if u must - add optional warnings to anything that might get petitioned (Clippy, the new Eve Assistant.... I wonder how that will work out) to be on the safe side [There are 3 Chribbas that have a very similar name... do you really want to accept the contract over 1 b for 1 veldspar from Chr!bba?!]
• and go drink something with your buddies because you have saved eve again! yay!

Impersonating yourself does not follow good logic since you are yourself and that is not a violation of any policies we have.

Thanks for reading.

Lead GM Grimmi

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/terms-of-service-history-and-clarification/

What's really needed is a handy chart of all the claims that can be made, and details of which ones are forbidden. Like:

• I claim to be myself.
• I claim to be an alt of another character on this account.
• I claim to be an alt of a character on another account I control.
• I claim to be an alt of a character on another account that I do not control.
• I claim to have a corporate role that I have on this character.
• I claim to have a corporate role that I have on another character (this account or another).
• I claim to have a corporate role that I do not have for a corporation that I am in.
• I claim to have a corporate role that I do not have for a corporation that I am not in.
• etc.

Does it matter who the claim is made to?

The people who do not understand this, and want to harass out of game for ingame retribution is where rules such as these get so convoluted since people simply cannot maintain the necessary duality that gamers need to have (tl;dr don't break your keyboard or try to be a douche because your pixels got blown up).

The UI window below works two-fold. Both as a warning to players and as an education into the harsh realities of EVE Online. The window also ensures that new players are educated on the harsh realities of EVE Online early. To ensure that players receive said education, the UI window would appear before the completion of all contract, send money and trade transactions. The window would function in completing or cancelling those transactions. The window would appear a minimum of 10 times (thus the counter in the lower left corner) before it could be disabled via the option menu. All players are forced to see this window at least ten times during their EVE subscriptions, thus no player can claim that they were unaware of fraud, extortion and racketeering among players.

(THE UI WINDOW IMAGE)

Thoughts? The text can obviously be altered and extended as necessary.


from http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.ca/2013/09/is-it-ccps-job-to-protect-players-from.html

It's not forgotten, but what more is there to talk about? The players already reached consensus. It's now for CCP and CSM to act on it.